Rabbit Hole

I hosted this animated panel at the 2013 Science and Nonduality conference in Holland. At least two of the participants – Lisa Cairns and Gary Weber – claim to have permanently transitioned to a state of spiritual oneness as described by mystics.

Fourteen years ago Gary Weber’s thoughts disappeared, and all his suffering vanished with them. Was it the disappearance of his thoughts that saved him, or is something else going on?